explosivecombat: (Gentlemen...I love war)
Solf J Kimblee ([personal profile] explosivecombat) wrote2012-10-04 01:10 am
Entry tags:

NIETZSCHE; DEAD PHILOSOPHERS' INBOX

[TEXT; LOCKED TO [personal profile] doitrockapella]

The offer for conversation is always open, should you desire to take me up on it; I can't guarantee that I'll respond immediately, nor will it necessarily be the response you want, but I'll always respond in some way.

In the name of enlightened discourse.
doitrockapella: (TCH ❖ just throw ghost pirates at it)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Were there any other ways you wanted to stamp out my attempts at a good mood while you were at it, then?
doitrockapella: (READ ❖ this is not a demyx impression)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
[ ... :|a ]

Oh. Wait, hold on.

[...]

All right, I think...I see what it is.
doitrockapella: (DUH ❖ it's called a royale with cheese)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I made a passing remark without putting too much thought into the implications, received an answer that made me feel like I was being brushed off, compensated for it by pretending the brush-off didn't bother me, ended up called on that, tried again to recover, and ended up producing a whole chain of discourse that happens frequently enough to irritate you when it comes up. I think it's because I'm coming off defensive and dodgy instead of being straightforward, and that bothers you...?

I was aiming for some outcome, missed, and in trying to correct for it, made things worse instead. I think.
doitrockapella: (WIND ❖ surely there are aliems about)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I hate this, you know. This...whole cycle, we've done it so many times now and I hate it; I feel like Sisyphus, making so much headway at getting my boulder up the mountain and then every time it slips and I'm back where I started, never wiser, never...

You wanted an answer, not my self-pity. I'm sorry, Teacher; all I can give you is my best this time.

We can't keep doing this to each other. You tell me to work these things out for myself and then put me through my paces wanting to see if I can arrive at the right answer; maybe that does help me learn but it pushes me away, too. You're holding my fate over my head like I've mistakenly landed myself in a minefield and if I make one wrong step in getting out of it, it all blows up in my face. I'm not arguing that I'm not wrong; I'm sure I am, regardless of whether or not I can give you the answer you're looking for, because it's wrong that we're in this standoff in the first place and I know that's my fault. But it's wrong that this is my punishment for it. I don't want to keep ending up like this, and it's not as easy as just saying, "Then stop putting yourself there, Locke". You're half of this, too. It goes both ways.

No one's going to die if you're wrong, too, Nietzsche. I know that's not what you want to hear but please, something about this has to change. Please, there has to be a better way than to keep doing this to ourselves, because sooner or later one or both of us aren't going to be able to take it anymore.

Please.

This isn't the answer you wanted, but this is what I've worked out in the time you've given me. Please. I'm sorry. I can't write you an essay and tell you why I was wrong and promise it'll never happen again, and wait with bated breath hoping for a passing mark that will get us past this one more time.

Bitte. Es tut mir leid. Dies einmal, kann das genug sein?
doitrockapella: (VAN GOGH ❖ more like van gone amirite)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, as I see it, things went something like this.

You made a remark in passing about your work. I had been asking about Fuchsia because I know I'll be going through there soon, and lately I've generally tried to keep track of when and where our paths are going to cross — thanks to that encounter in Goldenrod a month or so back, when I assumed you'd be somewhere you wouldn't, and was wrong.

We have a longstanding track record of things going badly when we dwell too long on the topic of your work, so I changed it — rather inelegantly, I'll concede. I don't know why I picked that topic in particular; maybe it's because thoughts of your work reminded me of mine, or maybe it's because we were talking about my penchant for adventure earlier. I didn't put that much thought into it. I just wanted to talk about something else, without explicitly jarring the flow of the conversation by saying that outright.

"That's nice; you aren't getting mine either" came off sarcastic, which I think you intended, and accusatory, which you might not have. I picked a bad method of trying to get out of it that time; I'll take the complete blame for that. The best I can offer is that it's a deep-seated habit, and one that I don't always think about, and one that I haven't yet been able to break for you.

Maybe that was the point when you tried to point out that I'm doing it again; looking back on it, I think it might've been. In the moment, saying something like "don't give me that" on the heels of something that had already seemed sarcastic and accusatory put me further on the defensive, to the point where I wasn't thinking about the conversation, just about not having you coming after me like that anymore.

I reacted badly again, and this time pushed back with sarcasm and accusation of my own. That's when this started, my...trying to figure out what had gone wrong. And I think in trying to explain it, I made it even worse besides, which is frustrating in itself, but also not particularly your fault.

Hoping for an outcome isn't the same thing as trying to provoke a reaction. I just wanted to talk about something else. I was hoping you'd laugh or...I don't know. Ask where I was going. Tease me about how often I call. Something other than suggesting I meant something underhanded by it.

So that's what I thought would happen, from the beginning. I wanted to change the subject; then I wanted to get out from under your scrutiny; then I just got defensive without any particular design. That's what happened; I wasn't thinking much at all.
doitrockapella: (WIND ❖ surely there are aliems about)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
All right. I understand.
doitrockapella: (READ ❖ this is not a demyx impression)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
You know we've talked before about habits. Assumptions about the world that have carried over and stay with us, even when we ought to be aware that they're counterproductive and illogical.

It's a habit born of the notion that people will only care if I make them. I'm not defending it or saying it's a good habit to be in. That's just how things are, where I'm from.

It's not personal, or targeted at you. Maybe that's why it bothers me when I get the impression that you're implying it is. I know it bothers you more than it would bother most people. It's just...a part of me. For now, at least.
doitrockapella: (CALM ❖ gee i sure hope i set my vcr)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't ask you what I want to without sounding inherently manipulative.

I won't make excuses, offer explanations. I...

Just. If I say that I understand that I'm facing someone within his rights to kill me, and who does...kill...and could. If I understand that.

Please.

Are you going to exercise it, Nietzsche?
doitrockapella: (WIND ❖ surely there are aliems about)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-09 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to be dismissed.

But that decision is your right, too.
doitrockapella: (REVEAL ❖ it's everything and nothing)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-10 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Then what happens now?
doitrockapella: (WIND ❖ surely there are aliems about)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-10 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry for how I treated you the last time.

I owe you that, too.
doitrockapella: (REVEAL ❖ it's everything and nothing)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-01-10 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Mm. We need to get better at this.

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 16:39 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 16:51 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 16:55 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 17:12 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 17:24 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 17:33 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 17:37 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 17:55 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 18:09 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 18:27 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 18:40 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 18:49 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 21:50 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 22:43 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-10 23:37 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 00:10 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 00:24 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 00:41 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 00:55 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 01:06 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 01:17 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 01:24 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 01:47 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 02:39 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 04:07 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 04:33 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 04:50 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 04:54 (UTC) - Expand

(no subject)

[personal profile] doitrockapella - 2014-01-11 05:06 (UTC) - Expand