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explosivecombat) wrote2014-07-09 07:37 pm
explosivecombat) wrote2014-07-09 07:37 pm
Entry tags:
- !ic,
- **anonymous,
- *text,
- @carmen sandiego (here she is),
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- @hiccup haddock,
- @royce,
- @walter,
- admittedly kind of asking for it,
- being you guys is suffering,
- but is everyone mad about genocide,
- come at me bro,
- engaging in heresy,
- good ideas are clearly relative concepts,
- hell are you even,
- how edgy of you,
- i used to be hardcore,
- just thought he'd ask,
- kimblee is overstimulated,
- like a brick to the face,
- my logic is flawless,
- my social skills are flawless,
- no sense of self-preservation,
- professor of fauxlosophy,
- raid on the city knock out evil tusks,
- sanity is so passé,
- slacking off like hell,
- so fucking flawless,
- surprisingly not plotting anyone's death,
- texting into the void,
- that may have been a bit insensitive,
- that wasn't morbid at all,
- the greater internet fuckwad theory,
- this is really stupid,
- tonight we're going hard,
- well that's needlessly sinister,
- why we can't have nice things,
- with apologies to carmen sandiego
035. [ANON TEXT]
[Well, good evening, network - it seems Seth's device is active again, though at the very least he's not inviting everyone to war like he's throwing the world's most unasked-for party this time around.]
You know, one of the things I've always found most fascinating about human morality is the idea that we're higher beings due to our natural inclination to put others before ourselves. It's generally accepted in society that we should be willing to sacrifice ourselves before harming another; I've always found adhering to that sort of notion to both vaguely admirable and sickeningly saccharine. If you must kill one to save another, that's still a life that's lost; why shouldn't the reward go to the one who's willing to fight for it, rather than the one who did nothing to earn it but sit there in pious devotion to doing nothing wrong?
We claim superiority for suppressing our instincts to survive; if anything, I think that would put us lower than dogs, not above them. All this intelligence and no will to live; it's pitiful.
But then, I suppose my lack of understanding of these things is why I can't be considered one of you.
For the time being, however, say I were to humor you in discussion for a while. Do you think your will to fight to ensure your survival actually needs to be tested? Since I suspect the answer will overwhelmingly be "No," I have another pre-emptive question for the heroic types.
Is there anything outside of arrogance and so-called moral superiority that makes you say so?
[...O...kay that's really not any better but apparently, it's just that kind of night.
You know, full of misanthropy.
Because some nights are like that.]
You know, one of the things I've always found most fascinating about human morality is the idea that we're higher beings due to our natural inclination to put others before ourselves. It's generally accepted in society that we should be willing to sacrifice ourselves before harming another; I've always found adhering to that sort of notion to both vaguely admirable and sickeningly saccharine. If you must kill one to save another, that's still a life that's lost; why shouldn't the reward go to the one who's willing to fight for it, rather than the one who did nothing to earn it but sit there in pious devotion to doing nothing wrong?
We claim superiority for suppressing our instincts to survive; if anything, I think that would put us lower than dogs, not above them. All this intelligence and no will to live; it's pitiful.
But then, I suppose my lack of understanding of these things is why I can't be considered one of you.
For the time being, however, say I were to humor you in discussion for a while. Do you think your will to fight to ensure your survival actually needs to be tested? Since I suspect the answer will overwhelmingly be "No," I have another pre-emptive question for the heroic types.
Is there anything outside of arrogance and so-called moral superiority that makes you say so?
[...O...kay that's really not any better but apparently, it's just that kind of night.
You know, full of misanthropy.
Because some nights are like that.]
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may leto bless and keep you and the children kimblee hopes you never have because holy shit you are suitably hilarious for his tastes
even if it's completely unintentional, which he suspects it is, but that is neither here nor there]
In which case, the next question is whether the model should be allowed to become self-perpetuating in the first place.
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Population aggregation is not something humans can control. If it happens, then it does, and the altruism model takes hold. If not, then the instinctual model takes hold. Either way, you survive. Advantageous to self.
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Unless you have access to an instrument able to perform population control, then there will be an increase in population density until the maximum load support of the land is reached.
It is an animal instinct to breed, after all.
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I was merely observing.
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An adherence to a lack of belief and a conscious choice to reject the idea of "beliefs" is, in and of itself, a belief, and it's a highly immature insistence to posit otherwise.
I'm not interested in your posturing.
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As for your stand, I can see where it comes from. But that does not imply I am necessarily going to agree or disagree.
There are different forms of self-interest, after all.
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If your only argument for why things should be is "Well, that's the way they are," then I pity you.
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If you're so insistent on pressing your concept of a belief, then I believe that people should act to maximize their net benefit.
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But I do not necessarily believe in forcing my beliefs on others.
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Try not to do it next time.
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Oh, good, willful ignorance!
Are you finished? I've no interest in debating with children.
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Fine by me. I don't have time to put up with people who can't hold up a proper discussion.
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Come back when you've learned how to actually hold a debate and maybe I'll humor you.
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Flynn's run out of social energy, either way. Enjoy your silence. ]