explosivecombat: (Gentlemen...I love war)
Solf J Kimblee ([personal profile] explosivecombat) wrote2012-10-04 01:10 am
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NIETZSCHE; DEAD PHILOSOPHERS' INBOX

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The offer for conversation is always open, should you desire to take me up on it; I can't guarantee that I'll respond immediately, nor will it necessarily be the response you want, but I'll always respond in some way.

In the name of enlightened discourse.
doitrockapella: (LOOK ❖ god lee stop being such a tool)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
An alchemist, then?
doitrockapella: (DUH ❖ it's called a royale with cheese)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
...Was he in Ishval? He looked awfully young.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Then you worked with him after.

...Is he employed by the family, too?
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Briggs is...on the border with Drachma, in the north.

And when were you seriously injured? How?
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's...sometimes a little unsettling, you know, to listen to you say things like that so casually. Not that I doubt that's exactly what happened, but...

I don't know. It's not that I mind listening to your war stories, but I guess I just don't always know how to respond to them.
doitrockapella: (DUH ❖ it's called a royale with cheese)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That, and it's the way you phrased something about the snipers. That they wouldn't shoot you if there was a chance of risking one of their own.

I don't know if I have it in me to pull a trigger and take someone's life. I think that can make it complicated for me, when it comes to hearing about situations filled with people who wouldn't hesitate like I would. I don't know if I could obey an order like that, even if I were told to, and that's why I wouldn't make a good soldier.

I know that's egocentric of me, but it's what I usually end up feeling at times like this.
doitrockapella: (VAN GOGH ❖ more like van gone amirite)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
...Do you know why some of your friends became soldiers? I'm using the term "friends" loosely, but — your fellow alchemists, the other soldiers you've mentioned before. I know you've told me before that the State Alchemists are considered "the dogs of the military", but surely they didn't all join the military with the intention of being its hired killers, did they?

...If we're being realistic about what a soldier is, I'm...not sure of a gentler way to phrase it, that's all.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes for a hard choice, though, doesn't it? From what you've told me before, being a soldier is one of the few stable jobs with steady incomes and good benefits in Amestris. That doesn't seem like a fair exchange, to me. Take someone in a situation similar to Hughes, with a wife and a family — to give them a stable, comfortable life, the trade-off is that the breadwinner has to be willing to kill for it?

I'm probably just not seeing the whole picture, but...it doesn't sit right with me, a situation like that.
doitrockapella: (DUH ❖ it's called a royale with cheese)

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It's never going to be entirely fair; that's just how life is. But...well, take that hypothetical soldier again. What if he has strong moral convictions against killing, but war is the only way he can provide for his family? If he keeps to his convictions, they suffer, but if he provides for them, he has to become something he despises.

I...suppose in defining "fair", I'd at least start with a scenario that didn't make people choose between compromising their livelihood or their morality. Wouldn't that be better anyway, since in theory it'd weed out some of the people who'd be most inclined to deny what they are, as soldiers?
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's a perfectly fair assumption. At least from the point of view that a person should make reasoned choices and take responsibility for them, which is I think the approach you're taking to it. In Amestris, it sounds like that is the calculus of the choice — this is the economy we have, so don't take on the responsibility of a family if you're not willing to support them through the means we have to offer.

Where I'm from, the perspective is a little different. The right to have a family and the right to not be made to compromise your conscience are seen as equally-weighted values. So maybe it's just that for me, the thought of only being able to have one seems unfair, since I'm used to being guaranteed the right to have both.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe that's why I always end up perceiving things in Amestris as so bleak. My expectation of where the baseline is supposed to fall is different, just by virtue of how my world's cultural values have evolved.

Of course, it's not as though we don't have people who choose to go into our military for the sake of getting ahead; frequently young adults will do it so that the government will pay for their civilian education, in exchange for a tour of service. That sort of calculus still exists, and responsible people still do consider their situation and available means before starting families. It just usually isn't as...severe as "If you want to have a family, accept that you might have to kill people to support them."

One of the things my nation prides itself on is being "the land of opportunity". That doesn't always hold true in practice, but it does seem as though, in general, we tend to offer more in the way of opportunity than Amestris does.
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[personal profile] doitrockapella 2014-05-06 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Call me sentimental, but if I can find a way to take you with me if and when I leave, I'll make sure to extend the offer.

What does his alchemy do? He manipulates metal?

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